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17-20 But I need something more! Parts of me covertly rebel, and just when I least expect it, they take charge. Romans 3:7-8 It’s simply perverse to say, “If my lies serve to show off God’s truth all the more gloriously, why blame me? 15-17 This resurrection life you received from God is not a timid, grave-tending life. What astounds me as we look into Romans 12 is the universality of the gifts of the Spirit and the call to all of us to do our part in a godly way. This is part two of my series the “Four Season of Life.” Last week I talked about our spiritual winters and this morning we will be examining our spiritual fall. Romans 5:8 teaches us that the heart of God's love for us is, while we were sinners, Christ died for us. I’m at the end of my rope. 13 I can already hear your next question: “Does that mean I can’t even trust what is good [that is, the law]? For instance, a wife is legally tied to her husband while he lives, but if he dies, she’s free. I’m absolutely convinced that nothing—nothing living or dead, angelic or demonic, today or tomorrow, high or low, thinkable or unthinkable—absolutely, Gain a concise, fundamental grasp of what the Bible is all about with our new, The Message, Ministry Edition: The Bible in Contemporary Language, The Message: Solo - An Uncommon Devotional, The Message Large-Print Devotional Bible, softcover, The Message Large-Print Deluxe Gift Bible--soft leather-look, navy. A new power is in operation. I truly delight in God’s commands, but it’s pretty obvious that not all of me joins in that delight. This is a combined, edited version of two articles that were first published in Norwegian: “Do you believe Romans 8:28?” from BCC’s periodical “Skjulte Skatter”(“Hidden Treasures”) in June 1949, and a transcript from a message by Elias Aslaksen in January 1976, “Everything Works Together for … Romans 7 New American Standard Bible (NASB) Believers United to Christ. I’m doing God a favor.” Some people are actually trying to put such words in our mouths, c | The Message (MSG) | Download The Bible App Now 7 But I can hear you say, “If the law code was as bad as all that, it’s no better than sin itself.” That’s certainly not true. Sin simply did what sin is so famous for doing: using the good as a cover to tempt me to do what would finally destroy me. We see the original and intended shape of our lives there in him. Anyone, of course, who has not welcomed this invisible but clearly present God, the Spirit of Christ, won’t know what we’re talking about. Anyone completely absorbed in self ignores God, ends up thinking more about self than God. Parts of me covertly rebel, and just when I least expect it, they take charge. Romans Children's Sermons for Romans 1 Romans 1:1-7 Hear the Call (Edstrom) Romans 1:16-17: 3:22b-28 It's Free (Edstrom) Children's Sermons for Romans 4 Romans 4:7-8 Be Happy (Edstrom) Romans 4:1-5, 13-17 Promise of Grace (Edstrom) Children's Sermons for Romans 5 Romans 5:1-11 The Right Fit (Edstrom) Romans 5:12-19 The Best Gift (Edstrom) Is there no one who can do anything for me? The law code, instead of being used to guide me, was used to seduce me. The law code had a perfectly legitimate function. 14-16 I can anticipate the response that is coming: “I know that all God’s commands are spiritual, but I’m not. So sin was plenty alive, and I was stone dead. 17-20 But I need something more! He acted to set things right in this life of contradictions where I want to serve God with all my heart and mind, but am pulled by the influence of sin to do something totally different. We, of course, don’t see what is enlarging us. All manner of concupiscence - It showed what was evil and forbade it; and then the principle of rebellion, which seems essential to the very nature of sins rose up against the prohibition; and he was the more strongly incited to disobey in proportion as obedience was enjoined. If she lives with another man while her husband is living, she’s obviously an adulteress. For without the law sin was dead. In the end, all we had to show for it was miscarriages and stillbirths. By hiding within God’s good commandment, sin did far more mischief than it could ever have accomplished on its own. Romans 7-8 The Message (MSG) Torn Between One Way and Another. I can will it, but I can’t do it. Freedom from self-centeredness, freedom from hostility and bitterness,freedom from anxiety and all kinds of fears, freedo… And now what the law code asked for but we couldn’t deliver is accomplished as we, instead of redoubling our own efforts, simply embrace what the Spirit is doing in us. 4-6 So, my friends, this is something like what has taken place with you. John Piper Dec 9, 2001 491 Shares Sermon. 7 1-3 You shouldn’t have any trouble understanding this, friends, for you know all the ins and outs of the law—how it works and how its power touches only the living. Authority Of Law - Romans 7:1. I truly delight in God’s commands, but it’s pretty obvious that not all of me joins in that delight. Those who trust God’s action in them find that God’s Spirit is in them—living and breathing God! I decide to do good, but I don’t really do it; I decide not to do bad, but then I do it anyway. That's why Romans 5:8 points to the death of Christ. The law code had a perfectly legitimate function. I do, perfectly well. The text says this: Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can it be. Romans 12:7-8 - We look today at the gifts of teaching, exhortation, giving, mercy, leading and serving. Everything in creation is being more or less held back. If there had never been any law, there could not have been any sin, because sin is a breaking of law. We’re also feeling the birth pangs. Dr. Packer teaches in a very realistic method emulating the old Puritan way, and brings a good message for the Church today. We go through exactly what Christ goes through. κ. What I don’t understand about myself is that I decide one way, but then I act another, doing things I absolutely despise. Please enter your email address associated with your Salem All-Pass account, then click Continue. It’s adventurously expectant, greeting God with a childlike “What’s next, Papa?” God’s Spirit touches our spirits and confirms who we really are. I realize that I don’t have what it takes. But the law code itself is God’s good and common sense, each command sane and holy counsel. None of this fazes us because Jesus loves us. The law is good. When Christ died he took that entire rule-dominated way of life down with him and left it in the tomb, leaving you free to “marry” a resurrection life and bear “offspring” of faith for God. The One who died for us—who was raised to life for us!—is in the presence of God at this very moment sticking up for us. The law code started out as an excellent piece of work. … What happened, though, was that sin found a way to pervert the command into a temptation, making a piece of “forbidden fruit” out of it. Utterly unfounded, in fine, is the objection of clumsiness (Hofmann); the symmetrical fulness of Romans 2:7-8, has a certain solemnity about it. 7 1-3 You shouldn’t have any trouble understanding this, friends, for you know all the ins and outs of the law—how it works and how its power touches only the living. I decide to do good, but I don’t really do it; I decide not to do bad, but then I do it anyway. The created world itself can hardly wait for what’s coming next. Scripture: Romans 6:1–14. Those who enter into Christ’s being-here-for-us no longer have to live under a continuous, low-lying black cloud. With his Spirit living in you, your body will be as alive as Christ’s! That’s certainly not true. A new power is in operation. Romans 7:8. He knows us far better than we know ourselves, knows our pregnant condition, and keeps us present before God. Jesus laid down his life for you. The moment I decide to do good, sin is there to trip me up. 14-16 I can anticipate the response that is coming: “I know that all God’s commands are spiritual, but I’m not. By confessing with our mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord and by believing this in our hearts, we are saved—nothing more, nothing less. Without its clear guidelines for right and wrong, moral behavior would be mostly guesswork. The very command that was supposed to guide me into life was cleverly used to trip me up, throwing me headlong. Upgrade to Bible Gateway Plus, and access the NEW NIV Study Bible Notes, Fully Revised Edition. 21-23 It happens so regularly that it’s predictable. But if he dies, she is quite free to marry another man in good conscience, with no one’s disapproval. So if I can’t be trusted to figure out what is best for myself and then do it, it becomes obvious that God’s command is necessary. Romans 2:7 to those who by perseverance in doing good seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life (NASB: Lockman). Christ is the end of the law so we can be justified and made righteous by faith in Jesus alone. Romans 8:7-8 is often used to defend the Calvinistic doctrines of Total Depravity and total inability. That person ignores who God is and what he is doing. IV. Dealing with Romans 8:4-7, the flesh opposed to the Spirit. Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. When God lives and breathes in you (and he does, as surely as he did in Jesus), you are delivered from that dead life. There are things to do and places to go! What more could God have done to show you how much you matter to him? The law always ended up being used as a Band-Aid on sin instead of a deep healing of it. The moment I decide to do good, sin is there to trip me up. First 30-days on us! Something has gone wrong deep within me and gets the better of me every time. Without all the paraphernalia of the law code, sin looked pretty dull and lifeless, and I went along without paying much attention to it. Romans 10 teaches the word of faith. Jesus laid down his life for us. CHAPTER 8. 7 But I can hear you say, “If the law code was as bad as all that, it’s no better than sin itself.”. The grand theme is assurance, from ‘no condemnation’ at the start to ‘no separation’ at the end of the chapter. Something has gone wrong deep within me and gets the better of me every time. God’s Spirit beckons. But if he dies, she is quite free to marry another man in good conscience, with no one’s disapproval. 7 But I can hear you say, “If the law code was as bad as all that, it’s no better than sin itself.” That’s certainly not true. What happened, though, was that sin found a way to pervert the command into a temptation, making a piece of “forbidden fruit” out of it. Leave a comment with your favorite verse if it is not listed here. They kill us in cold blood because they hate you. Twelve Theses. Romans 7 and 8 as he states is the home of … Without all the paraphernalia of the law code, sin looked pretty dull and lifeless, and I went along without paying much attention to it. The Son stands first in the line of humanity he restored. Is there no one who can do anything for me? I’m at the end of my rope. Obsession with self in these matters is a dead end; attention to God leads us out into the open, into a spacious, free life. For Isaiah saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?" To get a more biblical philosophy of the church. Meanwhile, the joyful anticipation deepens. But the longer we wait, the larger we become, and the more joyful our expectancy. In his Son, Jesus, he personally took on the human condition, entered the disordered mess of struggling humanity in order to set it right once and for all. For as long as we lived that old way of life, doing whatever we felt we could get away with, sin was calling most of the shots as the old law code hemmed us in. It stands to reason, doesn’t it, that if the alive-and-present God who raised Jesus from the dead moves into your life, he’ll do the same thing in you that he did in Jesus, bringing you alive to himself? 29-30 God knew what he was doing from the very beginning. He didn’t deal with the problem as something remote and unimportant. That is why waiting does not diminish us, any more than waiting diminishes a pregnant mother. The law code, instead of being used to guide me, was used to seduce me. Scripture: James 4:7-8; Romans 12:2; 2 Corinthians 4:16-18. Copyright © 1993, 2002, 2018 by Eugene H. Peterson, The Message (MSG). Paul reveals to us that salvation is about grace alone, about faith in what He has done – “the righteous shall live by faith.” But now that we’re no longer shackled to that domineering mate of sin, and out from under all those oppressive regulations and fine print, we’re free to live a new life in the freedom of God. None of this fazes us because Jesus loves us. Apr 8, 2008. He does our praying in and for us, making prayer out of our wordless sighs, our aching groans. 25 The answer, thank God, is that Jesus Christ can and does. In the end, all we had to show for it was miscarriages and stillbirths. Died To The Law - Romans 7:1-6 A. This is the central declaration of the gospel: Christ has come, he has died, he has risen again, and he has come into our hearts by means of the Holy Spirit in order that we who believe in him might be free. * 1 Hence, now there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. 9-11 But if God himself has taken up residence in your life, you can hardly be thinking more of yourself than of him. So sin was plenty alive, and I was stone dead. 24 I’ve tried everything and nothing helps. Romans 8:15-17 For ye have no… Feb 4, 2014. 13 I can already hear your next question: “Does that mean I can’t even trust what is good [that is, the law]? 7 We can understand someone dying for a person worth dying for, and we can understand how someone good and noble could inspire us to selfless sacrifice. 24 I’ve tried everything and nothing helps. Conference Message. I’m full of myself—after all, I’ve spent a long time in sin’s prison. The good news is not only a gracious offer but a command to believe and repent. Thus sin, the sting of death, received force or advantage to destroy by the commandment, Romans 7:8, Romans 7:11. 4-6 So, my friends, this is something like what has taken place with you. Delivered by the Spirit Romans 8:1-4. 26-28 Meanwhile, the moment we get tired in the waiting, God’s Spirit is right alongside helping us along. I’m full of myself—after all, I’ve spent a long time in sin’s prison. Without its clear guidelines for right and wrong, moral behavior would be mostly guesswork. Contemporary Comparative Side-by-Side Bible (NIV, NKJV, NLT, THE Message), The Message Pocket Paperback Edition: New Testament, Psalms and Proverbs, The Message Raspberry Blossom, Personal Size + Topical Concordance, The Message Gift and Award Bible, Imitation Leather, Burgundy, The Message, Numbered Edition, Personal Size, with Topical Concordance, The Message Deluxe Gift Bible, Brown/Saddle Tan Leather-Look. But the law code itself is God’s good and common sense, each command sane and holy counsel. In between, the argument progresses in two main stages with a conclusion. Who would dare even to point a finger? There is no way! Greek: tois men kath hupomonen ergou agathou doxan kai timen kai aphtharsian zetousin (PAPMPD) zoen aionion,. I. Sin simply did what sin is so famous for doing: using the good as a cover to tempt me to do what would finally destroy me. Scripture: Romans 8:1–35. But once sin got its hands on the law code and decked itself out in all that finery, I was fooled, and fell for it. Love is sacrifical, read John 15:13. 7 1-3 You shouldn’t have any trouble understanding this, friends, for you know all the ins and outs of the law—how it works and how its power touches only the living. What Does It Mean to Fulfill the Law in Romans 8:3–4? What I don’t understand about myself is that I decide one way, but then I act another, doing things I absolutely despise. For instance, a wife is legally tied to her husband while he lives, but if he dies, she’s free. And God isn’t pleased at being ignored. We are not speaking about that. The difficult times of pain throughout the world are simply birth pangs. And then, after getting them established, he stayed with them to the end, gloriously completing what he had begun. 18-21 That’s why I don’t think there’s any comparison between the present hard times and the coming good times. We know who he is, and we know who we are: Father and children. After he called them by name, he set them on a solid basis with himself. However, here are some of the most loved verses. When Christ died he took that entire rule-dominated way of life down with him and left it in the tomb, leaving you free to “marry” a resurrection life and bear “offspring” of faith for God. For apart from the law, sin was dead. For if I know the law but still can’t keep it, and if the power of sin within me keeps sabotaging my best intentions, I obviously need help! The Solution Is Life on God’s Terms. 2 For the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus has freed you from the law of sin and death. The best thing to do is give it a decent burial and get on with your new life. Apart from the succinct, surgical command, “You shall not covet,” I could have dressed covetousness up to look like a virtue and ruined my life with it. Reiche and Hofmann, following Oecumenius, (616) Estius, and others, arrange it so that to δόξαν κ. τι΄. These sterile and barren bodies of ours are yearning for full deliverance. Isn’t that the real question? The Flesh and the Spirit. 31-39 So, what do you think? But once sin got its hands on the law code and decked itself out in all that finery, I was fooled, and fell for it. 8 1-2 With the arrival of Jesus, the Messiah, that fateful dilemma is resolved. If God didn’t hesitate to put everything on the line for us, embracing our condition and exposing himself to the worst by sending his own Son, is there anything else he wouldn’t gladly and freely do for us? 7 Or do you not know, brothers and sisters (for I am speaking to those who know the [] Law), that the [] Law has jurisdiction over a person as long as he lives? And this made us all the more rebellious. As a recap from last week, I told you that the Holy Spirit gave me an analogy about how we experience spiritual seasons. Conference Message. Union with Christ: Mind-Renewing Foundations Desiring God 2014 Conference for Pastors. John Piper ... Sep 21, 1980 37 Shares Sermon. I’m absolutely convinced that nothing—nothing living or dead, angelic or demonic, today or tomorrow, high or low, thinkable or unthinkable—absolutely nothing can get between us and God’s love because of the way that Jesus our Master has embraced us. Before we look at these terms, note: If we go through the hard times with him, then we’re certainly going to go through the good times with him! And we know we are going to get what’s coming to us—an unbelievable inheritance! That’s certainly not true. The law code, weakened as it always was by fractured human nature, could never have done that. John Piper Feb 8, 1981 2.5K Shares Sermon. Do you think anyone is going to be able to drive a wedge between us and Christ’s love for us? By hiding within God’s good commandment, sin did far more mischief than it could ever have accomplished on its own. Is good just as dangerous as evil?” No again! We are enlarged in the waiting. But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. With God on our side like this, how can we lose? 8 But God put his love on the line for us by offering his Son in sacrificial death while we were of no use whatever to him. 21-23 It happens so regularly that it’s predictable. Defeated by the Law Romans 7:14-25. But now that we’re no longer shackled to that domineering mate of sin, and out from under all those oppressive regulations and fine print, we’re free to live a new life in the freedom of God. 1-2 With the arrival of Jesus, the Messiah, that fateful dilemma is resolved. Amplified: To those who by patient persistence in well-doing [springing from piety] seek [unseen but sure] glory and honor and [the eternal … But it’s not only around us; it’s within us. Next message: Carl W. Conrad: "Re: Romans 7:7-8" Previous message: Carl W. Conrad: "Fwd: Re: Iliad/ Odyssey" Next in thread: Carl W. Conrad: "Re: Romans 7:7-8" Maybe reply: Carl W. Conrad: "Re: Romans 7:7-8" Messages sorted by: [ attachment ] Mail actions: [ respond to this message ] [ mail a new topic ] But for you who welcome him, in whom he dwells—even though you still experience all the limitations of sin—you yourself experience life on God’s terms. After God made that decision of what his children should be like, he followed it up by calling people by name. Isn’t this also your experience?” Yes. 6 You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. 8-12 Don’t you remember how it was? 8-12 Don’t you remember how it was? Paul explains how that happened in Romans 5:6-8. My decisions, such as they are, don’t result in actions. Dec 9, 2001. 8 ThereisthereforenownocondemnationforthosewhoareinChristJesus.12 ForthelawofhtheSpiritoflifeiha… Commentary on Romans 8:32-39 (Read Romans 8:32-39) All things whatever, in heaven and earth, are not so great a display of God's free love, as the gift of his coequal Son to be the atonement on the cross for the sin of man; and all the rest follows upon union with him, and interest in him. Are in Christ Jesus birth pangs and God isn ’ t matter deal with the problem as remote. 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